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it inciv sebod would ask him why, how, what his plan would be when it comes to that country? politics should move us some distance tort debate and decision making on the hardest problems we face as a country. that is not whate'reet fr o politics right now. if we're not getting it now, when are we going to get it have a great night. tonight, paul ryan finally realizes tt mitt romney is the worst thing that ever hpene tohim. we're exactly six weeks from election day. >> exactly six weeks away >> and he touched down in ohio. >> ohio. >> io. >> ohio. >> romney, ryan, romne ryan >>re w llri >> does he have any.
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>> iome back to number three. >> romney isriket. >> if we don't run chris christie, romney will be the nominee and he'll lose. >> it is a big day inhe big apple. >> president obama is in new york right now. >> america wants to rolve ts isthh diplomacy. >> there was president obama giving a speech. >> i accept people are going to call me awful things every day. >> then there was mitt romney. >> the few words from bill clinton can do a man a lot of good. >> if he's ing to double down on tt, tt wlause difficulties. >> wait a couple of days for that bounce. >> he has no past that i can ever spot. >> i can appreciate your kind words. >> when i was a boy i used t think that becoming rich and becoming famous would make me happy. boy, was i right.
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>> yeah, he said that. with just 42 days until the presidential election and wi a new poll showingitmn's pa t t presidency rapidly narrowing, paul ryan is rapidly realizing that he is well on his ceside the next losing e i desperaly trying to avoid the stench of romney. yes, the stench. that is what paul ryan is actually calling mitt romney, according to polico. reportedly he has been marchin nd cigusay thgs like if stench calls, take a message. and tell stench i'm having finer
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sandwiches with peggy noonan and will text him lar. y yapad sh, where the stench is trailing president obama by 8 points. he's got one new idea. he has one thing he did not do in his first four years which is to raise taxe >> l a thaworsp in paul ryan's eyes in that shot. >> among likely ohio voters president obama leads. no republican has won the is shohe rests o recent battle ground state polls. the "washington post" notes quote, with ohio leaning his way, obama needs t win only 15 re electoral votes.
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while mitt romney campaigns against president obama, his aff is busy campaigning against the polls. >> look, ohio, the's still 42 days to . wehe b a sch inside the margin of error in ohio. we trust our internal polls. i don't make any campaign decisions based on what i read in the "washingto post". >> needles ty ey stwobeappy t get into the specification of what their polls say or don't say if they had a poll showing mitt romney winning something but they obviously n't have any such polls. rush limbaugh's audience is of course distraught about what t polls are tellingth. bush idyit a explanation for all of the polls. not including of course the fox news poll showingresident obama with a significant lead. >> the purpose of the people right now, most of them doing
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these polls, they're trying to make news not reflect it. theye al cr 'rllibels. they want you thinking your side has lost. they want you thinking it's over for what you believe. and that makes you stay home and not vote. that's what they're hoping. that's why you have to fight it evy day, stnie. >> of the american people who mitt romney decided to insult and lie about in a campaign fund riser where he thought only his super rich friends were listening have now taken over the presidential campaign. >> what he said j worry about these people. well, whose job is it? ladies and gentlemen, we are our brother's keeper. we are one nation under go we are in this together. and if the 47% doesn't make it, the country doesn't make it.
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>> in tonight's nate silver update of the new yorme blog frats tt o november 6th president obama will wen 312 votes and mitt romney will within 225 votes and his chance of winning has ticked back up to 80%. inme ikrystal ball. senator turner it's all about ohio. we keep saying no return has every won the presidency without ohio. what is your sen of the president's lead in ohio ght no itms ttutde the margin of error. >> well, lawrence ohio is certainly the heart of it all and we can tell that by the frequent visits by the president here and by governor romney. his team trying to make up for their 40%. you know, republicans have a
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problem with the %. he in thetaohio, our governor once said i don't need your people. we got governor romney talking about he don't need those people and the last time i check we were we the people. and that's who the president is fightingfor. op i wisconsin, we the t people all across this country. governor romney has revealed exactly who he is and we've got to believe that he doesn't care about the 47% in this nation. >> watchinghe romney-rya mancco a iucn ugly way, the stench. i mean, here's another quote from politico. after paul ryan showed a powerpoint presentation to a crowd inrldon tu. e romney campaign was furious but ryan reportedly said let the
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ryan be ryan and let the stench be the stench. >> he didn't really say that, did he? >> the litico, theyave irst of all, i will have you know there's nothing that fires up a crowd like a good powerpoint presentation. so kudos to paul ryan. it's kind of funny that mitt romney wouldn't embrace the powerpoint more. e ppo g a brought he w out thehite board to do the medicare solvent under me which i guess made it so. pa ryan realized this was not a gd move for his career. he was the serious guy, all le w do the false equivalency wanted to look at him as someone who is putting forth smart solutions. now we see the emperor had no clothes. >> and joy, theomat who
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are criticizing mitt romney for not being specific on part of his tax plan, on the deduction side of his tax plan. this is exactly what paul ryan is guiy of. paul ryan knowstg wiitt romney has exposed him too. now, they're not aiming this at paul ryan, because romne is the big name at the head of the ticket. but ryan knows this is hurting his game in a big way. >> yeah, i mean absolutely. you know that thing where aceo appots t you gun, he knows they're going close. that's what this kind of feels like. it's sort of a corporate nightmare for ryan. because at the end of the day paul ryan was supposedly this number guy. his numbers don't add up yway, m g o's going to make ok, conservative specific policies palatable because of my style. and i'm the guy that can serve
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nstio electorate.he if you were to get exct, this race would be even more of a gap between romney and barack obama. >>et's take a look at this new ad that preside obama released in the swing states. >> when mitt romy dismissed 47% of americans for not pulling th weig, h ake millions of hard working people making 25, 35, $45,000 a year. they pay taxes, romney paid just 14% in taxes last year on over 13 million in ie. st finments. instead of attacking folks who work for a living, shouldn't we
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stand up for them? >> senator turner, it looks like the obama campaign just had to combine the story of monday of last week with the story of friday lt wto wmay be the most devastating ad to run in ohio yet. >> it is, lawrence. and i want to shout amen. romney has revealed exactly who he . and i've got to feel congressman ryan probably fee like he's in at wnghtnow. it's hard to be a partner of the default candidate. make know mistake about it he's the default candidate. it's not going to change the fact and ohio is not only leaning towards president obama we are right there with president obama. we're ing to make sure tte veetefhio just as we did in 2008 and help our president make history again. the president is standing up for all fos and he doesn't have to say one thing before wealthy
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donors and another thing befe poor and working aid sfolks. he is about building from the middle out and making sure that everybody has the opportunity to live their measure of the american treem. we will know the tree by the fruit that it bears and the president has been bearing rightes fruit to make sure that america is for evybod >>t aoo put him being the default candidate. because the truth is the republicans, it's not like they had someone who was better to choose from. what are you going to do with gingrich or santorum. some of these people would b behind by 30 points at this eye' going to do a little time travel now. we're going to show you what ann romney is going to say an hour and a half from now on "the tonight show." it's a little magic we can do here. >> and what was it that made you so any? ill y jay, that four years ago it's a hard thing to do this, especially being the wife and having to listen to
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this stuff all the time. four years ago i made a videotape. and on the veotape i looked in the camera and i id, mitt, m r doing this again. >> oh, really? >> yes. >> there's the perfect political wife. she knows how to lie with the best of them. if there was ever a candidate who was absolutely going to run for president again after lose in the repubcan prima la , it was mitt romney. this guy was running from the minute he dropped out last time. and she wants to pretend they had to draft us into doi this agn. >> they had to reallywi o arm. it strains -- it's absolutely not credible at all. and that's one of the things, too. mitt romney has been running for president for so many years. and yet still it seems like he keeps having to say oh, now is the time when the american people are really going to get tonowhe real mitt romn.
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e ye tnow this man and i think to senator turner's point, ohioans see that ad about the comments. the reason it's so damages is because they already kw that's oe is the "washington post" had an article about how many undecided voters in ohio. >> even if there was no reinforcing imagery to romney. if he had gotten erything else rightn cagnju think when you really listeno those words, they are absolutely devastating no matter what he had said before or after. >> yeah, and where he said it. in ohio with the jobs being in the auto industry. when he said let destroit go bankrupt e biggest inte did is he exposed the real entitled class here are people like him. and he and his wife they wreak
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of entitlement to the presidency. that's the problem with sending ann out here. her saying you should be lucky to h mro candidate. they exude a sense of entitlement that the order working man never does. i tnk that's the biggest problem. >> we'll have to wrap it there. thank you all for joining me tonight. >> thank you. cong up, mt romney a prenamt to the clinton global initiative today. karen finney. and control of the united states senate could come down to missouri. azpuanonsm tson standin between akin and the united states senate is claire mccascell. whuld get rupertdoo par an attack?
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. mitt romney tried to get a clinton bounce today by attendg billclinton'sloba intibuitmn w followed at that event by president barack obama. we'll show you bill clinton and president obama again on the stage next. and tweet your guesses about w could get rupert murdocto pay for an attknt ey voter suppression laws. the answer will be in tonight's rewrite. we're sitting on a bunch of shale gas.
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whatever you think about his tax return, he's given substantial money to charity. he might want to tk about that today. >> that was bill clint slyly ndth country about mitt romney's tax returns. about 30 minutes before romney took the stage at the clinton global initiative in new york city. mitt romney did not talk about his tax returns at theli event today, but hilalary clintn did when she spoke there yesterday. >> one of the issues that i have been preaching about around the world is collecting taxes in an equitable manner. especially from the elites in every countr you ow, i'mut ofri
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politics, but it is a fact that around the world the elites of every country areaking money. d they do not contribute to the growth of their own countries. >> she is so good. at being out of politics. she's so out of politics. bill clinton double undli thoi tn "morning joe." >> i think it's worth pointing out that of the 33 countries in the oecd, the group of well theier nations, only chile and mexico take a smaller percentage ofhencom iaxt we do. it's worth pointing out that if you have a lot of money and you earn only capital gains, you pay
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15%, which is radically lower than the res that any other advanced et >>n bcln introduced mitt romney at the global initiative today, mitt romney shocked the audience, absolutely floored them, by revealing that somewhere, deep down, the m actually has ait a sense of humor. >> if there's one thing we've learned in this election season by the way, it is that a few words from bill clinton can do a man a lot of good. all i've got to do now is wait a couple of days for that bounce to happen. >> unfortunately for romney's bouncehi afternoon,
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president obama attended the same event and was introduced this way. >> i am violating all protocol today. because if yore an american citized yoince the president you're supposed to say the president of the united states and shut up. that's it. i just want to make one comment about this. i want to finish that speech i startedn charlotte. >> president clinton, thank you for your very kind introduction, although i have to admit, i really did like the speech a few weeks ago a little ber afterwards somebody tweeted that somebody needs to make him secretary of explaining thin. president clinton, you are a
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tireless, passionate advocate on be ofwh's btn o country. i am grateful for your friendship and your extraordinary leadership. >> joining me now is karen finney and e.n. he's also an msnbc political analyst. e.j., you've been around a while, you can figure these bounces. what kind of a clinton bounce is mitt romney going to get? he told a good joke that's a b surprise that he eroueom bounce, right? >> first of all, i think hilalay clinton got a great bounce for 2016 out of that ear speech and also about the way clinton keeps rising in the s. mitt romney actually gave a pretty good speech at the
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clinton global initiative. he had a sense of humor, he talked about helping the poor, which struck me at lea as a lot better than that 47 speech. wctyte ecif, and you know, i think in the end, obama gets the boun whenever clinton appears on the screen. but clinton is so popularight now, particularly among swing voters, that even aew pictures with clinton might ta le ofeff obama's advantage. not much, but a little bit. so it was a smart thing for him to do. >> let's listen t bill clinton on cnn a short time ago talking about mitt romney and his 47% comment. ubn on that 47% remark, that will cause difficulties because we now know that the overwhelming number of those people work and have children.
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until the current electn se,ubns a democrats supported both the child tax credit and the earned income tax credit. this is a rejection of basically more than thre decades of bipartisan policy to support work and family. it's not a bunch of free los. ar finney, the 47% are still controlling every hour of this presidential campaign now. >> indeed. but i've got to say one thing about the idea othe bounce. because a couple of days from now with the romney team yet again has not calculated, we'll all beking abo not even bill clinton could save mitt romney. i have no doubt in my mind. but yeah. imean, look. remember president clinton,ike president obama comes from somewhat humble beginnings. he understands the %. he ustha st of lack of respect that you heard in romney's voice and how people
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hear that. and guess what? he's the guy that the obama campaign is going to send out to talk to that 47% and remind them why they shouldeot for president obama rather than governor romney. i agree with e.j., it was a decent speech from governor romney. i don't think he's got enough days left to turn thing around. >> it's interesting that on the day mitt romney wasir at bill clinton's global initiative, bill clinton did more anti-romney media in one day tn he has done since the convention. here is he on cbs this morning. >> we know what gernor romney rliitheebt is that hisroposal first to make it bigger by adopting another round of tax cuts. but he wants to defer until after the election saying what the specifics are. i think that ought to be a little bit of a red flag.
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>> e.j., if you're the obama campaign you just want t clinton initiative to go on and on. >> he's continuing his role as a math teacher, which he is pretty good at. you know whatruc mgh clinton was speaking earlier. the earned income tax credi which has an ugly name, was one of the really goodeeds of the clinton administration. he really boosted that up. and if you remember classic clinto rhet,aslw abpele who work hard and play by the rules, in other words, the 47% in many cases. and so again, i thinkhat clinton's gift for obama is he has a way of explaining what for most people are compliced and distt issues and bring them back down to earth, which is why you're right. they should keep the global initiative going. >> thanks for joining me.
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todrazyubn coressman todd akin made it official, he will not drop out of the race against senator claire mccaskill. senator mccaskill joins me next and she'll tell us what to expect in the fightor control of the united states senate. and, here's a hint about who got rupert murdoch to pay for an attack on mitt romney and those republican voter suppression laws. which of these men has made the most money forupert murdoch? billo'reilly, sean hannity or homer simpson. the answer to that is the clue.
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into november, and that's replacing claire mccaskill. >> soon after, the litimate rape candite td an anceas npp out of the race, senator claire mccaskill showed just how much todd akin has to answer for. >> todd akin in his own words. on march 18, 2011, he said he smb 3, 2011 he said ty medicare was unconstitution national. then he said he wants to abolish e minimum wage. said he would eliminate student loans. and on august 19th he said only some rap a lema what will he say next? >> i'm claire mccaskill and i approved this message. >> senator, now you know who you're running against. >> i do. finally, we know for sure.
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that it will be todd akin onhe aeru rith he resisted all that republican party pressure, all the national republican party pressure, romney pressure, to get out of this race? >> i really wasn't. todd, i think, sees this race as a tes, iom ys, his faith. and i think he believes that this is a race that he was chosen to run by the people of the state. and i thinke began this whole process ry committed. anu tme, is is someone who has always operated on the fringe of his party. it's not that todd and i are that far apart on opposite en, it's i'm in the middle and hs on the very edge. so he's never really had a warm tthe republican party leaders because of his extreme
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views. >> let's listen to what mitt romney had to say about todd akin in this race. >> people like myself who have asked todd akin to get out of the race are dngoec w vehemently disagree with what he said and believe it hurts our party and i think it's damaging to women. >> senator mccaskill, it leaves me wondering what a republican like mitt romney would do in the ballot box on the sene rac i ssouri if he was a missouri voter. >> well, we're going to have a lot of republins helping us in this race. we will be rolling out an organization, republicans for claire in the coming days. we have already had, i've got kit bonds, forr chief o staff, i've got somebody who worked on sara steelman's campaign, who have come to us sand aid somebody who is capable
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of moderation. ihi tt tg list of things that that ad referenced is just a partial list. this is somebody just a handful of members of congress to vote against a registry for sex offenders. to votegainhehi nuitioprogram. to vote against the center for missing and exploited children. so he really is somebody who i think the more missourians learn about his record, and they really didn't know it, wrence, befores de. thilealize this is not who they want speaking for them in the united states senate. >> i want you to listen to the one republican who is still in todd akin's corner. newt gingrich. >> i have occasion said pretty w still occasionally looks at me and says lunar colony? and i get it.
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but if saying something dumb disqualified you, joe biden couldn beice presidt. at mccaskill, are missouri voters willing to forgive todd akin for saying something dumb about rape? are there different degrees of saying something dumb? >> well, let me just say this. i don think the proem i atdsa the problem is what todd believes. that is really the essence of this race. what are his believes. ne his beliefs would be painful for missourian families. the families in missouri that want to think that thingsre going to be better next year than they were last year. famili that are working hard d pngthleand
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want to be treated fairly in every way in their lives. and this is, todd akin is somebody who, you know, gave a speech that the hate cri legislation was going to create hatred. and those kinds ofiewsre what i think is really t problehere. nowhate, b w he believes. >> senator i've addressed this on this show before. i think a lot of voters who vote in solid blue states like new york, when they see democratic senators gathering in washington, they wonder why they don't all sound exactly alik o yuend truth is office you come from different places. what i've learned tonight by your ad, about these other things that todd akin had said, i had no ideaad idad no idea just what you're up against running in that state against a republican like todd akin who right now is polling at about 45% of the vote.
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>> he has a lot of dedicated volunteers. and he has a very broad base of suortn te sli community, in the far right evangelical base of the republican party. mike huk huckabee is alsn h team. missouri is always a close state. we have about a third, a third and a third. of republicans, democrats and independents. i'm going to run this race just as i would n matter who was on the other side. lots of energy, long da, very little sleepnd w real plea for people to come to claire and volunteer. we are going to run this race as hard as we know how because there is so much at stake. >> thank you for joinings gh >> thank you, lawrence. coming up, rosario dawson
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> so oe bl ofalwho he been rewriting voter eligibility laws to include i.d. requirements that are designed to exclude legally eligible voters have been very plain in what they are trying to do. >> voter i.d., which i going to allow gernoom the stof pennsylvania, done. >> in both florida and colorado, searches by state republicans have found the number of illegal voters to be lesshan 1/10 of 1%. and that's what republin say it is,ot'ua probably lower than that. but the best case republicans can make is less than 1/10 of 1%. that's the best they can come up with. faced with that evidence, corado's sretary of state says quote weaveea eritin the system.
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by vulnerabilities what they obviously mean are voters inclined to vote for president obama. republicans think that one easy way of targeting those voters is by aiming their voter suppression laws at black and noot who poll overwhelmingly in support of president obama. the most reliable republican voter is of course the white male voter. mitt romney leads president obama wi white males 58 to34 in the latt nrsm gallup. indeed if you listen to the romney campaign long enough, it sounds like it is targeted exclusively to white males who not so long ago were the only people allowed to vote in this country. raising his voice ainsthe reic v suppression movement is, of all people, rupert murdoch. that's right. staunch republican rupert murdoch who wants every republican to win every election is paying for the latest attack
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on mitt romney and republican voteruppronla 's right, the same rupert murdoch who pays bill o'reilly's salary and keeps sean hannity spewing hatred of the president every night is now paying for an tack on mitroey. rupeurch iin fd ayor the latest attack on mitt romney and republican voter suppression laws by someone who has made much more money for rupert murdoch than bill o'reilly and seanan ever could. in fact this person has made more money for rupert murdoch than anyone else. so rupert murdoch let's this guy do and say whatever he want to do or say. rupert murdoch's bigst money maker is of course homer simpson. and even homer simpson can figure out that republican voter
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suppression laws are not meant to stop white guys like homer. >> oh, man. not another election. why do we have to choose our leaders? isn't that what we have the sue t >>'r g vote, we'll need some photo i.d. >> but i've lived here all my fe. >> stopping all americans from voting is the protection of americans. >> i'm a 40-year-old white guy who didn't go to college and gets hisew fmit a stns >> in you go. >> barack obama, i don't know. i already got one wife telling meo eat healthy. mitt romney? i hear he wears magic under pants. i expect the leader of eree wod tcommando. plus his horse totally choked at the olympics. on the other hand he did invent obama care. >> thank you, you haveotor
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>> this is the march of our time. marchingoor to door registering people to vote. marching everyone unowo tholry single election.
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this is the sit-in of our day. sitting in a phone bank, sitting in your living room calling everyone you know, your friends, ur neighbors, that nephew you haven't seen in a while, that class ma you hav't spoken to in years, making sure the a knowst w to vote. every year, in every election. >> that was first lady michelle obama at the congressional black caucus saturday night calling on the audience to get out to vote. toyelebrities took to social meaiv to the street with the same message for voter registration day. in 2008 about 6 million amerans didn't vote because they missed the regisation deadline or didn' know how or where to register. voters in tru battleground states of colorado, ohio and florida have just two more weeks left to register to vote. joining me now, one of the organirs of the national voter
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registration day,ar dawson. how do you get the message out to unregistered voters, i would assume they're kind of hard to reach by definition. >>es. and that's why it was really necessary for, you know, when we started this idea over a year ago, that we needed a man reach out. so people locally grass roots wise were going to be able to reach out to people and show up where they were going to be. so we had 1200 partners across the nation, we had 900 events. was incredibly powerful. we weren't on the ground yw, wn opportunity for us to use social media. imagine martin luther king on twitter. it's a real thing of the we're seeing a lot of pple they get registered and they mark it on facebook, their friends registe their frids register. it becomes this domino effect because people are aware and it's really powerful.
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>> i want to get into your expertise with the latino vote. vae pdeobis he ug we talk about it here all the time, but it's so big that it can't be something that's just happening in this campaign. >> well, latinos are not a monolithic voting block. so they're very issue ie. anink t's a lot of conversation around immigration, the economy, jobs, health care. that's really disturbing a lot of people, voters across the board and making them choose very distinct sides. and when you're talking about cutting social servicesnd people who are drowng in undeaterloans, they tend to be affected by these issues from the economy and especially they're getting heated up around immigration. and i think you know obama did something with deferd action that brought a lot of people in the latino community on.
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ended up joining -- people who joined from arizona and went all the way to the dnc because deferred action doesn't help everybody nd they're hoping for a real promise of the dream act passing and comprehensive grn re. evh the latinos going over to obama's side, they're doing it with a bit of chagrin. though people are making a lot of talk, they want to see some real action. >> i want to take you to another area of your action, which is v u'he board, right? >> yes. >> nd awe just had claire mccaskill on. she's running in missouri against a guy who said that there's a thing called dyashe ability to prevent pregnancy. you might expect to hear that kind of thing in som


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